Manufacturing the Untouchables: Epstein and the Protection System

Jeffrey Epstein didn’t become “untouchable” by accident.

In Episode 51 of Fortean Winds, RamX and Bones examine how powerful figures can operate inside overlapping systems of protection — where intelligence adjacency, defense secrecy, institutional incentives, and narrative noise combine to shield accountability.

Using Epstein as a case study, this episode explores how protection ecosystems form. Not through a single conspiracy or handler, but through the alignment of incentives across institutions that benefit from silence, opacity, and risk avoidance.

The discussion explores:

 • Intelligence-adjacent relationships surrounding Epstein’s network
 • The defense-intelligence revolving door and the growth of classified spending
 • The Pentagon’s repeated audit failures and structural accountability gaps
 • How secrecy, budgets, and narrative noise create protection-by-ecosystem

This episode isn’t about proving a hidden mastermind.

It’s about understanding how systems can produce figures who operate as if they are untouchable.

If protection is the outcome of incentives, the real question becomes:

Who benefits from the system working exactly as it does?

And how about some links?

Nick Bryant and Ari Ben Menashe discussing Epstein's intel ties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLlX_NDRsg

Epstein's highly unusual Non-Prosecution Agreement:

Legal scholars and courts repeatedly described the deal as extraordinary and highly unusual in federal criminal practice.

 https://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/201914508.pdf

Audit Failures since they began...

 https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3595040/ 

Transcript

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Unknown
Welcome to the Fortean Winds Podcast where we talk about high strangeness and the Worf perception. I go by both and with us, as always, is RamX. Hey! Hey everybody. Hey, RamX. So this time we're going to be talking about the Untouchables and the Untouchables in the sense of how these overlapping systems in our government, their intelligence adjacent, you know, they involve procurement secrecy.

00;00;33;07 - 00;00;57;14
Unknown
The all knowing revolving door that we talk about a lot and failures in accountability. So Epstein is a case study in how protection works. Even when the crimes are known. That's right. It's kind of what makes them untouchable is that we all know they did it. And we there's tons of evidence and yet we're not seeing them being investigated by authorities and even the public.

00;00;57;14 - 00;01;18;12
Unknown
People are telling us to stay away from talking ill. I'll, I'll, I'll, or talking about their crimes. Right. And that makes them untouchable. Right. But I wanted to start with more of a question, because this is, unique genesis for an episode. You texted me out of the blue. Hey, can we do this? Can this connects to this?

00;01;18;12 - 00;01;36;02
Unknown
This connects to that. And I said, I, I immediately saw where you were going, but I was like, I don't know if the audience well, and I was talking to someone at the time and I said, if we were to Cho about this, would you understand what this is? The person immediately said, oh yeah, that'd be a good show.

00;01;36;04 - 00;02;03;28
Unknown
So they got it right away. And I was like, okay, maybe the audience will get it right away and see where we're going. But, on that note, I wanted you to explain, like, what drew you to this? Obviously, we're talking about previous episodes. We're talking about perception and who can talk vet perception and all that. And then, also talking about, of course, Epstein and and what's becoming very visible, is this, like, untouchable class of people?

00;02;04;00 - 00;02;36;03
Unknown
And it's not just people with the billion dollars. You know, it's the the fog of air in the sky, the military industrial complex we talk about all the time when it comes to disclosure, UFO disclosure, it's kind of the same people. So you have government, and then you have the private business, and they're intertwined. And my my thoughts were just, you know, you have you have this group of people that go basically back and forth between government and these private industries that seems to create this kind of untouchable force.

00;02;36;11 - 00;02;58;24
Unknown
Oof! You know, I go back to I act in the aerospace industry years ago. And they were a big defense contractor and one of the, one of the things that they always told us was to be aware of federal auditors. And they would sometimes tell us, you know, there going to be auditors around. So beware. We're like, okay, what the hell is that mean?

00;02;58;27 - 00;03;17;13
Unknown
And they allowed to accost anyone in the office. It doesn't matter where you worked and just start asking you questions because they were because they had huge federal military contracts, right? Right away. Years ago, I was like, who are these people? And why don't they? Can I just freely walk around in it cost me. It never a good.

00;03;17;15 - 00;03;39;10
Unknown
But I have another kind of funny story to tell you. I knew in the city office we used to have things happen in this office that no one could explain. And one of the funniest ones was over the weekend, a little red button appeared on a random wall in the hallway and went under that little red button.

00;03;39;12 - 00;04;05;06
Unknown
It said, do not push, and nobody could could tell us who put that there and why it was there. Even manager, it was like, I don't know. And they didn't care. It was just like one of those things. So we have no idea why some stuff operated the way it did. But it was just kind of an understood thing that were defense contractors.

00;04;05;06 - 00;04;25;22
Unknown
You know, we're we got big brother contracts, so we just do what we have to do. So, you know, that's that's my past. That's my experience with this task force. But, you know, there's a class out there of untouchables, and they go in and out of government and they go in and out of the defense industry. And so that's what just got me thinking about that.

00;04;25;24 - 00;04;55;00
Unknown
Can I tell you something? Yeah. I really want to push that button. I need to and me. So that I just push it on my last day and run. Well, that's a great setup. I'm glad I asked the question. And I think that's good context as to what we're going to talk about and why. But my response to you after I got this text was, that might be hard to prove with data and evidence, but I get where you're going, right?

00;04;55;02 - 00;05;20;12
Unknown
Right. That was my response. Now, does it make you feel better or worse that it was not very hard? I guess worse? Yeah. Me too. So, we're going to have sources to say, and there was a lot of evidence that this is how this all works. And it's kind of out in the open, and that fits into the whole untouchable model, is that I.

00;05;20;15 - 00;05;51;12
Unknown
We can demonstrate it for you publicly, just like we did the Epstein web or institutional framework that protected him and made him into an untouchable. We dissected the hell out of that in our Epstein's web episode. Right. And that might be the best example of an untouchable template, which would be when powerful actors become untouchable and multiple institutions share incentives to look away.

00;05;51;14 - 00;06;12;06
Unknown
And I'm burying the lead right there. Right. You're familiar with 14 winds that we talked about in the last episode. We love to bury the lead. That's what you're going to find out as we go. Is that, as we often point out, you have to look at who's going to benefit in order to understand who's behind something. All right.

00;06;12;08 - 00;06;36;29
Unknown
And that means untouchables aren't protected by secret handshakes. They're protected by incentives. Epstein was an intelligence asset. There is loads and loads of data in the public that would demonstrate that Epstein was an intelligence asset. I'm going to tell you some of the most recent stuff that has come out that makes it rock solid, clear that he had intelligence ties.

00;06;37;01 - 00;07;06;21
Unknown
It turns out Mossad was the ones who installed the surveillance equipment in his New York townhouse. Right. Been reported, publicly acknowledged. So that is a direct tie. He had intelligence surveillance equipment in the townhouse where these powerful actors were coming. And performing nasty things with sometimes people who were under age. And then there was all those CD-ROMs. What happened to those?

00;07;06;24 - 00;07;30;17
Unknown
Yeah, with with the names and the binders. And we kept saying what happened to those? So those things disappeared and now it's a kind of an open secret, isn't it? Like that he was definitely tied to Mozart. And then you have the contacts with Ehud Barak and numerous others. There were just loads and loads of intelligence contacts, Robert Maxwell's and then just Lane Maxwell.

00;07;30;17 - 00;07;57;24
Unknown
I mean, they were all neck deep in it. And then I want to point out one more thing. I don't know if it gets mentioned that often, but there was a former intelligence asset or spy, Israeli spy named Ari Ben Manasseh, and he came out years ago and said that Epstein was an intelligence asset and that he and just like Maxwell, had picked up the operation that Robert Maxwell was running.

00;07;57;26 - 00;08;17;20
Unknown
Ari, Ben Manasseh is a bit of a controversial character, so no one really knew how to take it. But so far, everything that he said has been true. Now, I think he also was working for an Arabic country when he said that. So he had motive to lie, but he also had motive to tell the truth if they were paying him to tell the truth.

00;08;17;20 - 00;08;41;24
Unknown
And so we've just been waiting to see, just like we always say, sometimes the only way to put the evidence to the test is to let time play out. And as time has played out, Ari, Ben, Manasseh, statement on Julian Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein borne out, it might mean that the other things he was saying about them, which was that this is an ongoing operation and that they had picked it up from Maxwell.

00;08;41;24 - 00;09;05;09
Unknown
And there are other people out there that are very reliable, like Nick Bryant, the journalist in the public. Now saying that he has heard that there is a successor and that Epstein's operation continues. Oh, interesting. What would that operation be? And let me ask you, I mean, and actually, let me also ask the audience in the comments. Go ahead.

00;09;05;15 - 00;09;34;18
Unknown
Leave. Let's all get censored. Leave your best guess. Like what would that be? It was an intelligence operation based on the evidence. What do you see? Well, I mean, the first guess that I always go to is the darkest one. It's. It's just an elaborate, dumb blackmail racket. So instead of having mutual interests, this group of people, you have a group of people who basically created a crime together, and now they're stuck together that way.

00;09;34;23 - 00;09;58;23
Unknown
The old blackmail kompromat. Yeah. And when I'm trying to explain, geopolitics is someone who doesn't really follow it or is unfamiliar with it. I usually, if they're adult enough, tell them. Think about it like organized crime. Lately. I don't think you have to use that as a metaphor. I mean, it's basically organized crime. You know, there's blackmail at the very top.

00;09;58;23 - 00;10;21;22
Unknown
We have that all publicly known through the Epstein files. And then there's might make right. There's, you know, the US going around doing whatever it wants just because it's got the guns. And then there's Israel wielding the US like it would, you know, a mobster like it? It all works exactly like organized crime. During the best of times in the US.

00;10;21;24 - 00;10;53;28
Unknown
We try to rise above that, right? And that's why they say character matters when you talk. Yeah, talk about leaders. That's all that matters. Yeah. This stuff about parties or left or right ideology or culture, those are vulnerabilities. Like what we talked about last time in the Psyop episode. What's a vulnerability? What's a susceptibility? The biggest vulnerability everyone has in the American public right now is their hatred for the other side, the so-called other side.

00;10;54;01 - 00;11;13;07
Unknown
You go to the park, they're not your enemy, right? They're not the other side. All of a sudden you get online and they're evil, right? What happened? What happened? What changed? They just released this study. It's been in the news. A bunch this last week that showed that Americans think that their country is the most evil of all the countries.

00;11;13;13 - 00;11;37;07
Unknown
No, it was like 52% of Americans think that other Americans are evil. Wow. Yeah. That's sad. That's our self-perception. That didn't come from you going to the park or the store that came from you getting on Facebook or YouTube or the algorithm. And if you can't handle it that it's a foreign nation that's getting involved, then just blame the computer.

00;11;37;07 - 00;11;58;14
Unknown
I don't give a crap on right? Right. I have to agree with this listener who left us a nice note and told me something I needed to hear in that moment, which was to hell with the niceties. Like enough. I mean, we all know that this war was started because Israel decided to go in first. That's what Marco Rubio said before he tried to walk it back.

00;11;58;14 - 00;12;21;10
Unknown
That happened, and no one can walk it back. It's too late. Right? And then we also know that there were meetings for weeks beforehand with the Saudis and the Israelis, and the Saudis wanted the war so that they could become the sole provider or main provider to China of oil and gas. Right. This got I ran out of the way.

00;12;21;13 - 00;12;49;27
Unknown
So going back to what I said, it works like organized crime. Geopolitics works like organized crime and sometimes unfortunately exactly like it. Yeah. And what does organized crime have. They have the untouchable goons that are out in the shadows doing illegal tasks sometimes. Most of the time. And we're not chasing a conspiracy here. We're chasing a protection structure.

00;12;49;29 - 00;13;15;20
Unknown
Right. If if these guys are essentially mobsters, as Epstein was, I would argue, as Trump is right, and he's kind of come out of the closet with that. I don't see too many people fighting us on that. But if you disagree, disagree, that's fine. Right? I find it funny that when we call for Clinton to go up there and testify, we're not called political, but when we call for Clinton and Trump, we're called political, right?

00;13;15;24 - 00;13;59;14
Unknown
Yeah. So in this context, can we define an untouchable? I think we can. And we're going to have to in order to analyze it. So operationally, I think an untouchable is someone who has elite access. They operate in opacity. They are in the dark. They work in the shadows. They're deceptive. They benefit from institutional hesitation and loopholes and the use of money to exploit those loopholes.

00;13;59;17 - 00;14;14;03
Unknown
We still need science because we live in a world. Potential and.

00;14;14;06 - 00;14;24;12
Unknown
We still need science because we live in a world. And so I.

00;14;24;15 - 00;14;33;08
Unknown
And we still gain science because we live in a world of science.

00;14;33;10 - 00;14;53;14
Unknown
And the thing that I think really defines them, that might be a little bit more nebulous, but it is what makes them untouchable is that they survive exposure cycles longer than I expected, that that's what I would say in a systems or process view. Like this is not supposed to be here anymore. How does it keep surviving the purge?

00;14;53;16 - 00;15;14;09
Unknown
Right? Right. And I think the answer to that is mainly by creating risk for anyone who confronts them. And that could be individually like even the Trump when someone talks about the war, asks him about Iran, and he demands they talk about football, that happened yesterday, right? Right. And then he calls him a dummy and he starts yelling at them.

00;15;14;09 - 00;15;35;22
Unknown
And then he says, I'm going to be mean to you for two weeks. So there's risk there, right? It's a toddler type of risk. And these are the type of emotional games even people play in everyday relationships. Right. But right. They're being played out on a larger scale here. And it's the same tactic, which is to make it not worth it for someone to confront you on something.

00;15;35;29 - 00;16;02;14
Unknown
Right? If your wife's always telling you to put the toilet seat down and you're freaking out every time she tells you because you don't want to do it, then you know, maybe she lets it go, or maybe she. What else would you do? She's not going to let it go, bro. Now imagine the toilet seat on a systems level where you can get prosecutors to hesitate, and this is what they've already done, you know?

00;16;02;14 - 00;16;29;12
Unknown
I mean, Bondi is only in her position because she was already protecting them from the Epstein files when she was back in Florida and Florida. Yeah. You get prosecutors to hesitate. You get institutions to compartmentalize. And this is essential to any sort of intelligence operation. You want things compartmentalized so that no one can ever put them together except for the people at the top.

00;16;29;15 - 00;16;51;10
Unknown
Again, we'll just go ahead and use the current events as an example. But you got the Iran war going on. You've got the jobs report coming in. That is atrocious. And also they've been lying the entire year, it appears, and we're in a recession, except the stock market keeps going up, but the job market would say recession. So it's very confusing.

00;16;51;13 - 00;17;13;23
Unknown
And then you also have Kristi Noem, the head of DHS, being fired, and all of the scandals that are associated with her, and a quarter of $1 billion that she spent on an ad campaign, which everyone suddenly acted surprised about. But we covered on our rinky dink podcast. Right. So you have no excuse for not knowing about the quarter of $1 billion.

00;17;13;25 - 00;17;35;25
Unknown
Right? And then the Iran war itself is going to cost about $1 billion a day. Where is that money coming from? It's all coming from debt. Who pays our debt and who are we borrowing from other countries. And that keeps extending us. Yeah, like I know. And even when Trump acts like he's going to try to take Greenland by force, you know what happened?

00;17;35;29 - 00;18;02;15
Unknown
Within 48 hours, the dollar went down 30%. Right. And it would have kept going right on down at least 95%. And we would have no buying power, and we would be bringing wheelbarrows of money to buy bread, just like they did in Germany prior to World War two. Right? Because they own our debt. So you can threaten them and they can say, hey, we're not going to fund you anymore.

00;18;02;18 - 00;18;26;04
Unknown
Expense, along with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, that it's the defense budget. And that's exactly what we're talking about here in The Untouchables, because you can't do anything with that medical stuff. There's all kinds of scams that happen with Medicare and Medicaid. So sure, what doesn't get reported in the headlines is exactly what we're talking about. This the untouchable nature of the federal contracting system, which is now in the public's light.

00;18;26;04 - 00;18;51;18
Unknown
You're seeing it with Christine Home when she awarded that giant contract, right, to a vendor who had only been in existence for 11 days and tried to say it was normal and this person just happened to be her former spokesperson. Right, right. So she already got fired and nobody believed it. But we now can see how the federal contracting system is very much rigged against the public.

00;18;51;20 - 00;19;26;28
Unknown
Oh yeah. For sure. And then you haven't mentioned yet, but I'm sure you're going to hear about the, you know, the Pentagon that can't pass an audit. Yes. Super important because the DoD has repeatedly failed clean audits since audits began in 2018. So that means they still can't fully account for assets and controls. The accountability failure at scale gives cover for any number of sub schemes fraud, waste, misclassification, compartmentalized programs such as UAP.

00;19;27;01 - 00;19;51;23
Unknown
Right? So not only do you have these group of untouchables that are going weaving in and out of these of the government and industry, you have this giant. I mean, I look, I see it as a giant slush fund basically, because what else is it? If you have that much money that's just not accounted for? What do you call that?

00;19;51;26 - 00;20;14;15
Unknown
Because there's no repercussions. It's not like their budget is going to go down because of it. Right. And that was how things worked in the military. There was one time that I was told to shoot off about a quarter million dollars worth of rockets. We had a bunch of dead tanks. Yeah. And I said, why? And because we want the same amount of rockets next year.

00;20;14;15 - 00;20;35;19
Unknown
Absolutely. We want to ask for more. That's that's the thing. That's even a thing. And the thing that's even a thing in local government, state and local government when it comes to salting the roads, sometimes the need to use the same amount of salt every winter so they can get the same amount, justify the same amount the next year.

00;20;35;21 - 00;21;01;06
Unknown
So yeah, right. And you look at all the people who benefit from that, who, you know, because that takes a lot of people to look the other way. Right. And all you really need is someone to benefit financially in one sense, or career advancement in another sense, and then someone's cousin, whatever. Like we said in our sign up episode and going all the way back to our Who Runs the world episodes, these things typically don't happen is monoliths.

00;21;01;13 - 00;21;32;25
Unknown
They are intertwined and they overlap, and you really get a lot of movement when you can pair groups together, when you can get multiple institutions that could benefit from going after or deceiving or aligning, maybe in an unscrupulous way towards one objective. Let me give you an example. Once again, the war. Yeah, we already mentioned that you had the Saudis with major benefit.

00;21;32;25 - 00;22;08;11
Unknown
You had the Israelis major benefit. The Saudis gave Jared Kushner a couple billion right before this. So Trump's family benefited directly. And then Trump also benefited directly from his relationship with the Adelson's and all of the Israeli money that got him elected. So, right, you've got multiple people in there that benefit. And then all of the other politicians like Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and there's some on the Democrat Party, too, like Chuck Schumer, like they're out there taking a PAC money and they're saying, yeah, great war, right.

00;22;08;13 - 00;22;28;20
Unknown
So you get multiple people in there. And this is how it works in organized crime, right? You get multiple parties with multiple interests. You pay them off and then you're in the center. They don't know which part. That's where the compartmentalization works, right? They don't know which parts they're working on. Well, you're the only one that sees the big picture, right?

00;22;28;22 - 00;22;50;24
Unknown
And that makes you untouchable because you've got something on all of them. Now, once they've implicated themselves in your scheme, you could always say, hey, I can always just tell them that you did this crime with me, right? I'm not an American. They can't do anything to me. Right? Right. That my friends would be kompromat. Yeah. So I just really want to get across that.

00;22;50;24 - 00;23;16;14
Unknown
A protected actor doesn't need a single handler. Protection typically emerges from mutual institutional and individual self-interest, like a Peter Teal. He's a node unto himself. He's going to see an interest in this for himself and for Palantir. And they've already been active on the battlefield. He'll get involved and get behind it, too. And all of his resources, which was we've discussed, is all you need to move lots of stuff.

00;23;16;16 - 00;23;46;00
Unknown
Right? We can point to structural similarities between Epstein's operation and historically documented compromise operations that would include access to elite networks, private environments. He had the potential for leverage, and he chose his targets very well. And then he had intermediary funding, which was inexplicable. Yeah, he also had international mobility, and he even had a fake passport. Oh yeah.

00;23;46;00 - 00;24;07;03
Unknown
That's right. So what would be proof that Epstein was an intelligence asset? What would be what would constitute proof at this point? Is it the CIA telling you that? Is it the CIA and Mossad having a joint press conference to tell you that? Yeah, right. Because I don't think that's going to happen. No, I think at some point you have to believe the evidence.

00;24;07;10 - 00;24;32;25
Unknown
And this is why we create a standard like we did for High Strangeness, because we said, you have to do this before you look at the evidence so that you can't stack the deck. Right, right, right. But if we qualified this as having access to the elite individuals, like we said, having surveillance equipment, having ties to intelligence, having witnesses say you were part of intelligence, then all of that's there.

00;24;33;00 - 00;25;05;11
Unknown
Would that be enough to convince a court? Yeah, I think absolutely. Would it be enough to convince a jury? Yeah, I think it would. So at what point do we say it's proof? Right. And his connection to the intelligence community was the number one factor in his untouchable status. It had to be. But his, his you know, it's kind of unique situation because he sought out he was a shadowy figure, tied up with intelligence agencies, but he sought out high profile people.

00;25;05;13 - 00;25;41;15
Unknown
Right. So the other thing, the revolving door type of untouchable, as well as the Epstein billionaire, nepo baby type untouchable requires is noise. Same thing with the psyop stuff. The Russians, the Chinese or Iranians, whomever is trying to do a psyop, they're trying to make noise. And that's coming from we'll call it foreign, even though we, as we've mentioned, people who align with them will then amplify that and it becomes its own web of misinformation.

00;25;41;18 - 00;26;07;07
Unknown
But we'll still call it foreign because and deceptive. But then there's institutional noise as well. And this is classification. This is it's classified. It's top secret. Right. You can't see it. That's a that's a type of a noise. There's an audio gap which the DoD has. That's noise. Because another way to say audio gap would be I would call it corruption in its purest form.

00;26;07;07 - 00;26;42;17
Unknown
I mean, you're talking about that's the word I'm looking for. Yeah. Missing money. Yeah. Yeah. Part of that is our budget sprawl. Like the budget process as well as the accounting process is so complex. And that's intentional. You know, it's it's intentionally opaque that that is important for the institution. Right. And then there's cultural noise which we create excuses create partizan distortion creates people on Twitter who are bored, create people on any social media or board create.

00;26;42;17 - 00;27;05;19
Unknown
And then it just gets so exaggerated. Let's all take a step back. Let's all pull it back from, you know, putting our dukes up on one another and just acknowledge that all of us generally want the same things. Way back when people were worried about nuclear war with Russia, we even had to have these conversations with the Russians like, hey, hey, actually, we do all want the same, right?

00;27;05;20 - 00;27;29;07
Unknown
We want to go home to our families and, you know, enjoy our lives. And certainly Americans aren't that different. Who's convincing you of that? Who benefits from your divide? Who benefits from your hate? You know, people keep talking about 1984 and George Orwell. And the one thing that I don't think gets mentioned enough is two minutes of hate.

00;27;29;13 - 00;27;53;20
Unknown
You remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah. And each side would have to engage in two minutes of hate every day where they would look at the screen of the opposing nation and the opposing leader of that nation, and they would have to yell and scream and be vile towards it. That's how they'd have to start their day. And that's essentially what everyone is doing the minute they sit on the toilet and pull out their phone every morning.

00;27;53;28 - 00;28;17;09
Unknown
Yeah, it's when it's doing the doom scroll, as it's called, two minutes of hey, yeah, it doesn't have to be. And of course, the constant, establishing a constant threat to as part of that. Right. With the, with the missiles, the enemy's missiles are always a threat. Constant state of fear. Yeah, we really need fear. And we need to do a whole episode on fear.

00;28;17;12 - 00;28;42;14
Unknown
And some of our audience has gotten some pretty good, suggestions for new episodes. Yeah, we got a suggestion to do one on the phenomenon, and DMT and those type of experiences, which is a massive subject. And as I was explaining to our listeners at the time that the reason we haven't touched it yet is because I am still in the research phase on that one.

00;28;42;14 - 00;29;10;15
Unknown
I think that's going to take months. And then we had another listener ask us to do, and I and phenomenon related one, and I have been avoiding that one for reasons of my own. Yeah, right. But we should we should do something like that. I can't imagine anyone I'd want to hear more from about that knee, but, yeah, I don't know much to tell you definitively, but,

00;29;10;18 - 00;29;31;19
Unknown
Yeah, we should we should look at it at some point. Yeah. And, those are some, some great episodes. It's just all of this stuff in Corruption Land has been so pressing, and I can tell by the way people are selecting our episodes and listening to what they are among our catalog, that this is what people want to talk about, right?

00;29;31;22 - 00;30;01;07
Unknown
Yeah. I would love to turn away and do some sort of Sasquatch deep dive right now, but I just can't. This is too important. Yeah. For sure. These monsters are very much here and now and present, and we know where they are. Right? Yeah. I mean, a monsters is a really good term for these folks because they've heard a lot of people, and there is some accountability that's showing up, across the pond, you know, in Europe.

00;30;01;09 - 00;30;27;07
Unknown
And, it's opening up some it's opening up eyes and people are, are being exposed as they should be. Yeah. I'm with you. I mean, I'd love to talk about exposing orbs and and sasquatches, but, you know, this is pressing right on, and I think we can take it to the next level. This information helps. The awareness helps?

00;30;27;10 - 00;30;51;20
Unknown
Yeah. For sure. But, hey, bones, you started this one off, and I just want to make sure that we had all the notes that you want to to hit. And I hope it made sense to everybody out there. Yeah, I think so. You know, I understand that, you know, especially when we're talking about the, the early 90s and we're, we're talking about the late 80s, too, is that, you know, that was the fall of the Cold War.

00;30;51;21 - 00;31;10;22
Unknown
That was just and I understand that there is a spy game that goes on internationally, you know, spies get caught even even with allies. And, oh, you caught me in it. They do a trade, they do a, you know, a swap sometimes and all that. And there is that level of kind of secrecy and it has to be that way.

00;31;10;22 - 00;31;26;23
Unknown
And this is the way it is. I have a feeling this topic is kind of it is kind of a historical thing, because if you think about when all this started to happen, it was like a reset in the intelligence agencies in a way, because you had to follow the Soviet Union and what then you had and then you had the spycraft.

00;31;26;24 - 00;31;59;26
Unknown
It was kind of reformulating. And I think the Epstein got in there at a time after the Soviet Union and after this, the spycraft and kind of took advantage of it and ran away with it and is show basically showing a different model of spy craft that just turned into a horrible situation. Yeah. Why are the Epstein files missing from 1999 to 2001?

00;31;59;28 - 00;32;44;16
Unknown
Right. 1999, which would have been two years before 911. So why before? Yeah, yeah. Good question. Yeah. I think we are not going to let that one go. Yeah, definitely. That's a good thought for a future episode for sure. Hey everyone. Thanks for listening to this one. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Yeah, yeah. And of course I always mention it, but make sure to check out our website at ForteanWinds.com.

00;32;44;19 - 00;33;06;18
Unknown
When the dam data Mr.. Power leak blackmail that works in the end complete 48 wins partial. What the mainstream won't see government control just high strangeness in the VIP. Let's get dark 40 and winds blowing through the server racks. Files redacted secrets in the zipper bags up. Stealing compromise the pyramid scheme. Dam data. Dollar floating in the mainstream.

00;33;06;23 - 00;33;23;25
Unknown
We don't believe we measure. What the did you say? From paranormal skies to the Black Sea of. Yeah, yeah. The rules are banned by the ones who write a lot for the database. Got the files you never somebody will raise a fraud. Now we tracking Robert Blaze, little Saint James and Emily's compromise. The range of all cattle on the dam.

00;33;23;25 - 00;33;25;21
Unknown
We can do any you.