Fortean Winds
Fortean Winds
The Psychic Circus: Fairies, UFOs, and the Trickster Phenomenon
In this long-anticipated episode of Fortean Winds, Bones and RamX finally tackle Robert Kirk’s The Secret Commonwealth, drawing mind-bending connections between 17th-century fairy lore and 21st-century UAP encounters. But this isn't a quaint folklore episode—this is about continuity, not coincidence.
Kirk's astonishing accounts of subterranean, liminal beings—seen only by those with the "second sight"—mirror modern patterns in UFO abduction, high strangeness, and transmedium craft. Were the fairies really ancient projections of the same adaptive intelligence we now label “non-human”? What if folklore was just metadata rendered in myth?
The hosts chart a lineage from Kirk to Keel and beyond, exposing a hidden map of contact through myth, mind, and perception. The terrain hasn’t changed—only the tools we use to see it have.
For a Kindle version of Kirk's book you can get it at Amazon here (as I write the description it is now 99 cents):
Sorry folks, it was free last week.
You can check out our videos on how Fae influenced Angelic Descriptions.
Video 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDtRNxsrtzg
Video 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZkXiaNc9iI
Read more and follow our sources to research paths of your own at Fortean Winds
Our UFO Research Summary.
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Unknown
Hello and Welcome to the Fortean Winds podcast, where we talk about UFOs and all the related high strangeness. I'm Bones and with us as always, is RamX. Hey. Hey, everybody. Hey, Ram. So on this episode we go deep into the strange connections between Robert Kirks, The Secret Commonwealth and the modern UAP encounters we have discussed and cataloged.
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Unknown
Now, Robert Kirk, we're talking about his work in the late 17 or sorry 1600s and we are doing the very episode finally. And this is just, is not a simple folklore comparison either. What emerges is a patterned phenomenon, a liminal intelligence playing out through multiple cultural lenses. So by drawing explicit connections between Kirk's 17th century account of fairies and the 21st century documentation of UAP events, we make the case for a single continuity of non-human intelligences engaging in humans via myth, psychology, and perception.
00;01;05;17 - 00;01;28;14
Unknown
Among the pattern has good arts play, and both Kirk and modern research offer the key to understanding it. So we're finally doing this right rhyme. Yeah, we can finally stop Doomscrolling and talk about the yeah, the lights in the sky, right? Speaking of lights in the sky, that's exactly what we tend to think about when we think of fairies.
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Unknown
We think of Tinker Bell. The fairy godmother. We think of witches and forests. And that's not really accurate to what fairies are. First of all, fairies is a grossly blanket term which encompasses a number of religious traditions which were all native to Europe prior to Rome coming in, and then the church expanding into Rome and then Rome, turning everyone Christian.
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Unknown
Right. That's kind of when the term fairy granted to envelop all of this stuff. But but we're going to focus through is Robert Kirk's work. So the reason why we would be focus on, Kirk's work will become apparent when I tell you the full title of his book, which is The Secret Commonwealth of Elves, Fawns, and Fairies, or The Nature and Actions of the subterranean, and for the most part, invisible people heretofore going under the name of elves form amongst fairies.
00;02;33;05 - 00;03;03;15
Unknown
Okay, so he mentions both invisible and subterranean, which are two categories which we have determined this current phenomenon could fit into. Okay, so right in the title, we see the first parallel between our work and Robert Kirk's work. And that's what becomes really interesting here, is that he's writing this back in 1691. Right. And at that time, Robert Kirk is a minister in the Anglican or Episcopal Church.
00;03;03;17 - 00;03;27;06
Unknown
Often he's ministering over the Scottish Highlands, and he takes up the task of being the first Fortean. And he goes around to people in his own flock, as well as visiting other towns and collecting stories of people who encountered what they were calling fairies. And in Scotland they were more likely to be called 22222. In Ireland, they were Buckley, to be called the XI.
00;03;27;08 - 00;03;51;27
Unknown
In Iceland it was the hoodoo folk, and then in Denmark it was the elver folk, which is likely where the word elf comes from or Alvin. Yeah, and then there's the AFA of Norse legend, and then there's the Teg of Wales. So there are legends that are pretty much identical to the ones that Robert Kirk discovered in all of these different cultures.
00;03;51;29 - 00;04;20;10
Unknown
And then there's identical legends in many other cultures there. Could Suni from Japan, there are the Jin of the Middle East, which I think we'll discuss in our next episode by our go into a few more of these other cultures that have the same exact legends, but Kirk's work exude Aedt on the subject because he went around and did the 410 process of going, okay, I'm going to collect different stories and I'm going to look for patterns, and then I'm going to develop theories based off the patterns.
00;04;20;13 - 00;04;45;23
Unknown
And what's amazing is what his theories were and then what we're discovering today about UAP. So if we focus more on Scotland, where Kirk was doing his work, we find the fairy folk often referred to as the good people, and they were referring to them as the good people. In order to not take them off from an animal, they thought it was actually going to curry favor with them because they were afraid of them.
00;04;45;28 - 00;05;08;26
Unknown
But that's a good way to tell you they weren't cute. They were fun. These were scary beings, right? These weren't little Tinker Bells flying around, but what I think would be most interesting is to look at the book and then draw a direct comparison between things we've discussed on the show and the exact thing that Kirk is talking about in the book, because I think it's really striking.
00;05;08;28 - 00;05;27;16
Unknown
So let's start with Kirk's basic description, and I'm reading from a copy that's actually for free right now on Kindle on Amazon. So I'll drop a link to that in the chat here. I highly recommend this book. It's pretty short. You can get through it, but it is a little difficult to read because it's written in older English style.
00;05;27;19 - 00;05;57;27
Unknown
So I'm going to start by reading the literal text, and then I'm going to start paraphrasing it. I think you'll sky when when I read you the literal okay, great. These sets or fairies they call slay myth or the good people, it would seem to prevent the dint of their ill attempt for the Irish use to bless all they fear, harm of, and are said to be of a middle nature betwixt man and angel, as were demons thought to be of old, of intelligence, studious spirits and light, changeable bodies like those called astral.
00;05;58;02 - 00;06;15;07
Unknown
So now I'm gonna unpack that for you a little bit. And what he's saying is that they referred to them as the good people in order to not piss them off. And he said, the Irish have a habit of blessing the things that they fear. Interesting. And he said that these beings are between a man and an angel.
00;06;15;07 - 00;06;42;21
Unknown
So there's something in between, which is very interesting, because when we come to the jinn, you'll see that there's said exactly there in the cosmology, even in the Quran. Right, right. He references demons and demons. Spelling is d a emo and s, and this is from the Greek daimon, which is meant to be a spirit that is not tied to a other entity.
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Unknown
So in Greece there was demons, which were kind of like free spirits or free agents. And then there were, gallows or Angelos, which were, ended up being angels, but those were messengers from the gods, like Hermes. Okay. Yeah. So those words end up getting incorporated, and those concept ends up getting incorporated into the Hebrew Bible, where angels and demons.
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Unknown
But in ancient Greek folklore, the daimon was more of a free agent. Okay. Right. And that's really relevant here because that's what the fairies kind of are. The interactions have very different patterns, so they have malevolent ones. And for example, people would refer to a helpful spirit in their house as a brownie. And this was something that might help you out and make hot water in the morning or something like that.
00;07;37;26 - 00;07;47;23
Unknown
And they referred to a similar negative spirit who was turning things over and stealing things and making things turn bad. As a boggart.
00;07;47;25 - 00;08;19;17
Unknown
And depending on how you treated a brownie, you could potentially turn it into a boggart if you were to disrespect it or offend it. So there was a lot of superstition around how to interact with these invisible beings. In chapter one, he describes them as subterranean inhabitants, and he says, these six or fairy have light, changeable bodies like the nature of a cloud, and that they're somewhat ethereal and they're not physical like us, but they can be seen.
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Unknown
And then what comes up a lot in this book is what he refers to as the second sight, which is a ESP or psychic ability, or remote viewing or mediumship. That's what we would call it all today. Right? But what Kirk refers to is the second sight, and he considers this second sight and the fairies to be super interrelated.
00;08;43;18 - 00;09;05;17
Unknown
So it's only people with second sight who are able to see the fairies. And there are a lot of cases where people who are contact her abductees or mediums have the same issue, where they can see things in the room that other people can't. And if you had multiple of them in the same room, they would all be seeing the same thing, but the other people can't.
00;09;05;17 - 00;09;32;01
Unknown
And then this prevents us from fully understanding it or accepting that those invisible things to us are actually there. Sewing Kirk describes many of these beings he's describing what a witness who has second sight told him, the same way someone might record what a medium or abductee or contact he told him, and Kirk goes out of his way to point out that this second sight should not be considered witchcraft.
00;09;32;02 - 00;10;00;06
Unknown
This is natural. Is someone having brown eyes or black hair and he points out that it's often conflated with witchcraft and perceived as demonic or satanic. But it shouldn't be. In Kirk's eyes. And this is interesting because Kirk is an Anglican preacher. He's not a Catholic preacher, so he's not subject to the same Catholic dogma or the same Catholic governance, because I think work like this would not get out.
00;10;00;07 - 00;10;31;29
Unknown
I'm sure that Catholic priests went out and interviewed people and did extensive work on the unknown and the supernatural that we're never going to see that's buried in the Vatican. Right? It was discussed in the Vatican. And that's it. That's it. Yeah. And we know that for sure. I think Diana Rocha has mentioned that, Kirk created the most detailed ethnographic account we have with people who claimed direct interaction with fairies, and this was not metaphor or myth.
00;10;31;29 - 00;10;55;12
Unknown
They were described as encounters, the same way people are taking in witness encounters today from paranormal or UFO abductions. And speaking of abductions, there's lots of stories of abductions in Kirk's work. There's a lot of talk about children being abducted, and then doppelgangers put in their place and they would say this was something to do with the child's behavior would change.
00;10;55;12 - 00;11;18;15
Unknown
Maybe a baby's behavior would change, and they would say, oh, then he was swapped out for a fairy. A lot of that ends up sounding like it was complete disinformation and misinformation on these people's part. It sounds like a complete misunderstanding of medical science and what happened. So they just assumed everything was fair. You know, someone was abducted and replaced with the fairy, right?
00;11;18;17 - 00;11;41;28
Unknown
So these cases of doppelgangers come up in Kirk's work and some of them might be supported. Who knows? I wasn't there to interview the witnesses, but they're not the most interesting part to me. The most interesting part are the parts where he's talking about beings who abducted people, and it sounds very much like an alien encounter, right? Or entities who live underground and only appear at twilight.
00;11;41;28 - 00;12;18;22
Unknown
And this comes up a lot. Kirk brings up the whole idea of these things, living in a liminal state in between here and there, betwixt places. So he didn't have the verbal words to call something interdimensional. And let me let me give you a good example of that. So my favorite story was this guy who was wrestling a fairy in parks work, and his neighbors said that he was wrestling with the fairy on one hill, and then he would pop up on another hill and they'd be wrestling again over on the other hill, and then he'd pop up in another location and that would be there.
00;12;18;22 - 00;12;39;10
Unknown
And they believed he was going in and out of Fairyland. All right. And in my head, that all looks like a cartoon where the guy's on top, and then little Alf on top of him, across the hill and smashing his chair over his head or something. Yeah, but what they were describing was someone moving in and out of dimensions, moving in and out of space and time.
00;12;39;10 - 00;13;10;17
Unknown
So that's really interesting. And they had no words for that, right? Right. I mean, one of the amazing things about Kirk's work is the fact of how well he described it, for his time. I mean, we're talking, you know, pre electricity, that just don't have they don't have any references, modern references. That reminds me of, you know, how the Koran, explains, describes the jinn as like smokeless fire.
00;13;10;19 - 00;13;36;05
Unknown
They see some kind of ambient light or whatever it is, and they have to think they can only reference what they know. And so for them, it was smokeless fire. Yeah. I think that ties to what they believe the Djinns origin story was. I think man was made of clay like celestial beings. Rain of light and then chain were right, were made of smokeless fire, which sounds a lot like plasma or could be electricity.
00;13;36;05 - 00;14;07;06
Unknown
People have wondered, and that's interesting too. And those things come up here too. So this is just a reframing of the same intelligence in my mind. It's interacting with us the same way. It limits our worldview. In Kirk's day, that was angel and demon binaries, and it was kind of turning that on its head with fairies. But we can't exclude what was going on with the culture at the same time, because these old gods in these old ways were moving out of the culture and the Christianity was moving in.
00;14;07;08 - 00;14;34;23
Unknown
And as Christianity moved in, it saw all of this stuff as demonic or witchcraft, and that was it. But yet these different patterns never stopped. And then they clearly didn't have technology back then. So this second site was everything. They couldn't rely on EMF meters and they didn't expect to. So they just and the psychics were accepted. At that time, people had visions, people had predicted visions that came true, and then they were known throughout the land.
00;14;34;25 - 00;15;02;25
Unknown
Not only second sight. You gotta to think I put a lot of credit into people's awareness back then, of their surroundings. Because you think pre, pre electricity, people used to it was very common for people to, you know, they retire and go to bed at a much earlier time at sundown. And then it was common for them to wake up and have like a wake up time in the middle of the night.
00;15;02;28 - 00;15;22;02
Unknown
And, and not only was not only that, I mean, there their night vision is probably so much better than ours in our modern times where we're just staring at light sources constantly. Yeah, a big part of this is a knowledge of the natural world. Kirk thought these beings were natural. He did not think that they were supernatural per se.
00;15;22;09 - 00;15;50;27
Unknown
He thought they were a natural part of God's world. Right? Right. And this second sight seemed like a very natural part of their world as well. And Kirk writes in his book that Highlanders had far more Islanders were qualified with this second sight. He thought people from the Isles were more likely to have second sight. That men, women and children indistinctly were subject to it, and children where parents were not.
00;15;50;29 - 00;16;17;25
Unknown
Sometimes people came to age who had it, when young, nor could any tell by what means produced. So he's saying that it's usually inherited, but not always. Sometimes kids start to have it for no reason. And he's saying sometimes when people come to a certain age, they just have second say, it is a trouble to most of them who are subject to it, and they would be rid of it, at any rate, if they could.
00;16;17;27 - 00;16;39;03
Unknown
I mean, we've had mediums on this show tell us that this I remember Lucinda saying that, hey, if you want this, you can have it. If you do not want to see an alien. So. Right, right. A lot of people who have this type of mediumship ability would rather not have it. And I think that that's a very consistent theme.
00;16;39;06 - 00;16;58;09
Unknown
They can't turn it on and off always, and it gets in the way of their life. They can't interact with people about it without them thinking they're crazy. Right. And Kirk went on a lot about The Seventh Son, because he thought that the seventh son was the most likely to have this gift. And back then it was pretty common for people to have seven kids.
00;16;58;09 - 00;17;19;25
Unknown
So it was much more common to be a seventh son. Right? But he also points out that some are gifted from birth and others are coerced into it by trauma or lineage. And he mentions trauma, which is pretty interesting because that's something that we found. I mean, even like the Chris Bledsoe story involves trauma. And then he started seeing it a lot, right?
00;17;19;27 - 00;17;47;10
Unknown
Lots of it. So the tech didn't just get better. We just changed how we tuned to the second site. I mean, if you want to look at it that way, radar is a second site. Flicker is a second site. But the principles are the same. Like these beings choose how and when they are seen. We are not observers, we are participants and their stage presentation is in.
00;17;47;12 - 00;17;52;12
Unknown
An event.
00;17;52;14 - 00;18;49;20
Unknown
In in in other. In the beginning, in anything. In any beginning and. In the beginning. Again. In the beginning. Any any. Beginning in any any. In. And Kirk notes that just like UAP, it is very similar to only be visible from certain angles or at certain times, like he notes, twilight or liminal hours. He keeps talking about liminal spaces, which we've note is a state of change.
00;18;49;20 - 00;19;14;00
Unknown
And if they're in between this place and another one, well, it seems like that's when the door is the weakest. Right? Right. And that brings us into like the trickster pattern, which is like glamor, misdirection and how it deals with us, this big psyop. So yeah, Kirk describes the array, the fantastic projections used by fairies to confuse perception.
00;19;14;00 - 00;19;43;29
Unknown
He says they cast up mass, they vanish into lights or assume familiar forms. And he says their ends are obscure, but their intentions are deliberate. So the the glamor is the, evaporating system. It's how it runs. It's it's it's not malfunctioning, you know, it's like it's performing, just like, you know, every UAP report with, contradictory shape, you know, or, like, impossible physics, it's, you know, shifting around, but it's but it's shifting behaviors functioning correctly.
00;19;44;06 - 00;20;07;03
Unknown
You know, the goal isn't like to contact humans. It's to, you know, to create this myth. It's a myth generation. And, you know, and of course, confusion. Fragmentation of memory. And they don't really need secrecy laws. They just need us questioning our senses. It's it's exactly like UAP. Yeah. The real cage ends up being ontological. It's what we consider real.
00;20;07;06 - 00;20;34;16
Unknown
And they stay on the edge of what's real. And so Kirk notes that and it's through trust in people who have this second sight, and through taking reports from different ones and looking at patterns in between them and you can see Kirk do that in his work and some of his objectivity that he shows, and how he looks for evidence and how he looks for people who wouldn't have known each other saying the same thing.
00;20;34;19 - 00;20;57;19
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, here's his perception and the whole topic is just phenomenal. When you think about the the date, when you think it was the late 1600s, it's amazing. Yeah. And we've talked a lot about how perception may be shaped by quantum interference. And UAP often change form in mid sighting from orb to triangle or from metallic to plasma.
00;20;57;21 - 00;21;19;05
Unknown
You know, in multiple 14 winds post we have the crafter and these are described as shapeshifting, responsive and theatrical. Right. And like we said, you know, we we made the point so many times is that if they wanted to be fully seen and discovered, they would do it. Yeah. It reminds me a lot of what Kael called it, the Psychic Circus.
00;21;19;11 - 00;21;42;26
Unknown
And he knew very well that this fairy stuff was connected. And that reminds me of a moment in the Mothman case that came up that is very fairy like. And a witness reported a UFO landed in the road and a being got out, and it was the grinning man. And his name was injured. Cold, which is a very fairy like name.
00;21;42;26 - 00;22;03;27
Unknown
And Kael, I think, noted that. And he had these big, huge, sharp teeth and he kept grinning, which is also sounding very fairy like. And then cold asks the man, well, what is that glowing in the distance over there? That's the city where people are living. And then he says, oh, we have a place like that. It's called a gathering.
00;22;04;00 - 00;22;25;13
Unknown
Okay. It sounds very fairy like, too. And this is in the middle of the Mothman incident, which, you know, had a creature that looked like folklore as well, and then also had lots and lots of UFOs, more UFO sightings during the Mothman incident than anything else. Right? So both keel and I have noted that fairy connection heavily in their work place.
00;22;25;13 - 00;22;54;27
Unknown
Passports. Begonia. Begonia is fairyland. Yep. One thing that stuck out with me is how. How? Kirk described the fairy dwellings as under hills. Accessible only at certain times or through invisible doors. The structures would vanish when approached without permission. So they were real, but conditional? Yeah. That connection to the underground is fascinating to me, because we found direct connections between underground and UAP instances.
00;22;54;27 - 00;23;19;21
Unknown
In our article on tunnels in Peru, we found tunnels that connected three major sites in South American ufology. We found one that connected Claris to Nazca, to the site in Peru where there was all those attack. Right. And we've mapped the surface of Earth, but not the subsurface of perception. Fairy Hills, where our ancestors labels for liminal geography.
00;23;19;24 - 00;23;46;13
Unknown
Today we call them trans medium domains, or wormholes or portals or window areas. The entity always needs a place to disappear into. That space has always been with us. It's just renamed right. Even the craft or trans medium. In today's world, these UAPs are seen entering oceans without a splash or vanishing into mountains emerging out of nowhere. These are not conventional bases.
00;23;46;13 - 00;24;17;07
Unknown
They're temporary. Intersection point. There may be conventional bases somewhere on Earth which is launching out these trans medium craft, but they've been around a long time. And like the Fairy Mound, these places exist when the phenomenon wants to. We can't discuss Robert Kirk without mentioning the fact that he disappeared. It's a big deal in Kirk story. His death was the subject of a lot of primary myth, which was appropriate for Robert Kirk.
00;24;17;09 - 00;24;51;05
Unknown
His own disappearance echoes the subjects of his book. He supposedly collapsed on a fairy hill and was buried. But soon after, his cousin claimed that Kirk appeared in a vision and said that he was taken and he gave instructions to him on what to do when he was going to appear at his cousin's christening. They wanted him to throw a dagger over Kirk's head, and if he did that, then Kirk would be able to escape the fairy realm.
00;24;51;08 - 00;25;14;26
Unknown
But if he didn't do it, then Kirk would be trapped there forever. And then allegedly, Kirk appeared at the christening, and then everyone was so surprised that they didn't throw the dagger over his head. And then supposedly he was lost. But. Right, right. That second part, like, it's not really well supported. Right. And the, it's very mythic.
00;25;14;28 - 00;25;42;15
Unknown
It's very mythic, but it wasn't like a bunch of reliable witness accounts to that. Right. But that makes Kirk the first abductee on record, right? No. Jacob Jacobson, the case of Jacob Jacobson, I brought this. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he was abducted by fairies, and it sounds very much like a fairy abduction. And at one point, there was this big alien that seemed to be alien.
00;25;42;15 - 00;26;09;07
Unknown
I there was this at one point, there was this big fairy sort of overweight, kind of goblin sounding creature at the table, sort of barking orders at the others. And he had this big red light that Jacob Jacobson was really focused on. And then Jacob Jacobson thought that he had only been gone for like an hour and had left this fairy place, but he had been gone three days, and that one was documented.
00;26;09;09 - 00;26;34;00
Unknown
Okay, okay. Kirk also got into their weapons and how they hurt us, and then what hurts them and both the people of the Scottish Highlands and Robert Kirk seem to think that iron potentially hurt them and kill seem to think that that was true to iron is a remarkably ferrous or magnetic substance. So I thought that that might disrupt them.
00;26;34;02 - 00;27;00;20
Unknown
But Kirk said of their weapons that they are most what solid earthly bodies they're they are much made of stone, like two yellow, soft flint. They're shaped like a barbed arrowhead, but flung like a dart with great force to these arms cut by art. And tools that seem beyond human have somewhat of the nature of a thunderbolt, subtly and mortally wounding the vital parts without breaking the skin.
00;27;00;23 - 00;27;23;04
Unknown
So I find that to sound very much like people being irradiated. And this is exactly what you can find in UAP cases. We found the one where the guy shines the flashlight. This was one I think we talked about before that, Iswap recorded, and this guy walks out in his backyard and he shines a flashlight, the UAP, and it shines a light back at him.
00;27;23;06 - 00;27;50;01
Unknown
And. Right, he wakes up later and realizes he's burning and he goes to hospital and realizes he was irradiated. And we can find other instances of that where without breaking the skin, they seem to be able to apply a very specific beam and specific type of harm. Wow. Yeah, that's a good catch. That's a good one. And here's a good example of Kirk using his discernment and investigative skills.
00;27;50;03 - 00;28;21;15
Unknown
He talks about a sphere which he puts a lot of faith into. As we mentioned, the second site. And he says another example is a sphere in Scotland sitting at a table with diverse others. Suddenly he cast his head aside and the company was asking him why he did it. He answered that a friend of his in Ireland had threatened to cache a dish full of butter in his face, and the men wrote down the day in the hour and sent it off to the gentleman in Ireland, and asked him if he said that, and he said, yes, he did.
00;28;21;15 - 00;28;46;20
Unknown
He knew his friend was a seer, and he thought he would have a good joke with it. So Kirk made sure to interview all the witnesses in that case. Yeah, yeah. And he took that as a form of, we'll call it logical proof, because maybe scientific proof stretches it a little too far. And he talked about the culture of the fairies that he learned from people with the second sight, who had long conversations with them.
00;28;46;22 - 00;29;10;18
Unknown
And he said that they are said to have aristocratic rulers and laws, but no discernible religion, love or devotion toward God the Blessed maker of all. They disappear whenever they hear his name invoked or the name of Jesus. And we've heard this said in abduction cases, right? Yeah. People call on the name of God and whatever it is disappears, right?
00;29;10;18 - 00;29;36;16
Unknown
Right. And it's just fascinating, you know, coming from from an Anglican minister. So I assume that gave him a little bit more credit at the time, too. Yeah. He weaves a lot of Bible verses into this. I'm skipping over a lot for Kirk. He goes out of his way to point to the verses in the Bible that he thinks were talking about fairies or something in between God and man and angels.
00;29;36;23 - 00;30;03;29
Unknown
Right. And he talked about how the men in the fairy kingdoms would travel abroad, and they were either looking ahead at things or mimicking things, or previewing tragedy like omens of some sort. But yet they had rituals and services and community of their own. They were described as being tribal, which I think when we get to the Jinn that will also come up too.
00;30;04;04 - 00;30;30;15
Unknown
Right, right. He said there are parallel in speech was similar to the country in which they lived. He said their houses were quite large, but of course you couldn't see them unless you were invited and earnestly required. He said. These companions make themselves known and familiar to men, otherwise being in a different state, an element they neither can nor will easily converse with them.
00;30;30;18 - 00;30;52;27
Unknown
So they're normally just not ever talking to us, and we normally don't see them. Right? Right. People who claim to see them today say that they often take the form of a point of light, or like heat lines, like you would see coming off the asphalt on a hot day. All right. And Kirk interchangeably refers to them as fairies or subterranean.
00;30;53;02 - 00;31;24;22
Unknown
And he said the subterranean is have controversies, doubts, disputes, feuds and sighting of parties. There being some ignorance in all creatures and the vast created intelligences not encompassing all things. He's a very good writer, but what he's saying is that they have fights, they don't always agree. And he also says that their vices and sins are usually different than ours, that they typically don't have earthly vices because they don't have earthly bodies, so their motives are less clear.
00;31;24;26 - 00;31;53;29
Unknown
Yeah. It's like, he's taking an early, cultural anthropology approach to it. That's exactly what he did. I mean, this is one of the first ethnographies in the area. It's really right. Right. And Kirk's work is so unique because he focused on witnesses and what they were saying and then recorded and reported on that, whereas other works at the time, there was famous mythological works which went about cataloging all the different mythologies that these people had before they went away.
00;31;53;29 - 00;32;20;21
Unknown
And those are very important to to religion and folklore and for us to even understand what people were thinking at the time. But this is the only work that went and did that. It proved that the UAP phenomenon isn't modern. It's a refracted continuity. Kirk's secret Commonwealth isn't quaint. It's forensic. It provides metaphysical and behavioral descriptions of the same intelligence we now call Nye.
00;32;20;23 - 00;32;46;13
Unknown
And what changed was our framing, not the events structure. I have to remind this all of the definition that we all came up with for UAP, which I have yet to hear disputed, which is they are adaptive expressions of an unknown intelligence. So by our definition, this fits just fine. We have no trouble fitting fairies right into our definition of UAP, right?
00;32;46;16 - 00;33;15;11
Unknown
Right. So you know, the true 14 interpretation of UAP requires historical continuity. So we got Kirk, now we got keel and romantics. They're not outliers, you know. And like you said earlier, I liked the quote. We mapped the surface of the earth, but not the subsurface of perception. So they're all basically cartographers, you know, each mapped the terrain with the tools of their time.
00;33;15;13 - 00;33;45;28
Unknown
And, you know, the pattern didn't it didn't start with Roswell. Basically, it started where, humans first perceive the edge of the real or to question it totally the secret Commonwealth and us together we provide some sort of Rosetta Stone. Curt keel. Yeah, the lay, the whole lineage. It's a Rosetta Stone of high strangeness, and it all looks a like one gives myth and the other gives metadata.
00;33;46;00 - 00;34;06;18
Unknown
Together, we reveal intelligence in the pattern, not just behind it. There's an intelligence behind the way it stays concealed, for sure. And this study of fairies and our next study of gin gets us that much closer to figuring all that out. Yeah. You know, it's really interesting how, you know, these these ideas still live in our culture today.
00;34;06;18 - 00;34;33;17
Unknown
It's just they've been almost, you know, I guess they've been monetized in a way, and they've turned cartoonish, but they're still there. It's just it's really fascinating to just to read an account that goes so far back. Yeah. We go through how fairies end up getting involved in our modern depiction of angels and some of our videos on YouTube I'll link to, but basically, angels in the Bible are nothing like what you would see.
00;34;33;17 - 00;35;01;17
Unknown
An artwork and the artwork came from fairies, so eventually people started mimicking the artwork of fairies with angels, and then that became people's perception of angels that they had wings and golden hair and yeah, yeah, it's not at all what they look like in the Bible. So fairies end up getting involved in a lot of our perceptions. Yeah, that's that's really cool.
00;35;01;19 - 00;35;25;13
Unknown
And it also that's a I think that's a great ending point. I mean, that's that's where we are. That's how it ties together. Yeah. I'm looking forward to the next one where we tie this into the gem. Yeah for sure. We did it. We did. We did the fairy episode from have you Been Like That doing. And I'm like dying to tell you about some of the things that I found in Corruption Land.
00;35;25;13 - 00;35;43;20
Unknown
But I'm not going to. They can wait. And we're going to talk about fairies and gin for the holidays. Right on. Well, we'll stop there and, and look forward to the next one. Thanks, everyone for listening. And thanks, Ryan. Thanks, bones. Looking forward to the next one. Take care. You.
