Spheres, Orbs & Mythic Messages: UAP Warning Lights

In Episode 34 of Fortean Winds, we delve into three electrifying UAP updates and what they might be trying to tell us:

• Buga Sphere Press Briefing
  Fresh revelations from June 20th’s Colombia unveiling: a seamless metallic orb wrapped in fiber-optic filaments, unexplained thermal readings, and plans for remote flight tests before any invasive analysis.
• Orb Drones Over Nuclear Sites
  Geo-mapped sightings of glowing orbs hovering above U.S. nuclear power plants—are they benign observers, or a chilling “message” to cool off? We break down flight patterns, witness accounts, and expert commentary.
• Mythic Messages & Modern UFO Lore
  From Whitley Strieber’s contactee visions to emerging cults built around “orb teachings,” we explore how ancient symbols and religious archetypes are surfacing in today’s UAP discourse. What do these metaphors tell us about humanity’s search for meaning?

Plus: a brief follow-up on Matthew Brown’s latest whistleblower leaks—cryptic tweets hinting at occult tech and looming geo-political shifts—and a sneak peek at Episode 35’s deep dive into classic abduction narratives.

Tune in as we sift fact from folklore, decode potential warnings, and prepare for the next wave of UAP revelations.

See our video on the Drone map overlaid with Nuclear sites here:

https://www.tiktok.com/@fortean.winds/video/7513939285654129966

View the original map and New Jersey Drone Timeline here:

https://forteanwinds.com/2024/12/15/the-new-jersey-uap-drone-event-timeline-map/

Transcript

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:21:01
Unknown
Hey, everybody!

00:00:21:03 - 00:00:56:19
Unknown
Yeah. I was surprised to see that we didn't offend anyone, I guess. And you even. Right. Yeah. You even went after Greer hard, like, hey, hey, maybe people have finally come around and looked at the links that we shared and looked at the sources, which had him saying these crazy things in his own words. Right. And maybe that's getting to him a little bit because he was down there in Mexico and he was in the front row of the blogosphere conference.

00:00:56:19 - 00:01:27:03
Unknown
I was just watching before we started recording, and he did some good things. He brought Eric Burleson down there with him. He's a congressman, so he was there in the front row to hear all about the latest findings of the blogosphere. And he's also brought some scientists from the US down, or is going to bring some scientists down to Nasca and look at the mummies.

00:01:27:05 - 00:02:19:11
Unknown
Yeah, we'll applaud progress from wherever we get it. It is just like what we were saying about Elizondo or whomever, like, okay, if you can make progress, we'll applaud. If you're going to talk nonsense, we're going to call you.

00:02:19:13 - 00:02:27:12
Unknown
Yes.

00:02:27:14 - 00:02:45:02
Unknown
Right.

00:02:45:04 - 00:02:49:05
Unknown
And.

00:02:49:07 - 00:03:07:09
Unknown
The exterior. The object appears to have fiber optics on it. But those fiber optics, we don't know what they're attached to. For example, if they were typically attached to a camera and it was used for surveillance, we'd have to go find the camera on the inside of the object. So right now what they look like is fiber optic cables on the outside.

00:03:07:11 - 00:03:28:15
Unknown
But what it sounds like from this morning's press conference is, they're not going to crack it open. And I think it's smart because they can crack it open any time prior to cracking it open. What they're going to try to do is get it to fly and do anomalous things.

00:03:28:17 - 00:03:51:23
Unknown
Right. And then if you can record it, doing all these anomalous things and then record all the effects, maybe then you could reproduce it.

00:03:52:01 - 00:04:15:08
Unknown
Yeah. It was discolored and brown, and it would look like what you would expect from radiation, but there was no radiation really being recorded coming off the object. There was temperature variation along the object, which hasn't been explained until we get into the interior or the object, we won't know if there's something inside of the object that's causing those temperature variations.

00:04:15:08 - 00:04:42:04
Unknown
That's more prosaic. But that was anomalous. And then there's no joints and welds. So I got a text this morning that I shared with you from a friend who went down there, and his words to me was, it's the real deal. I didn't expect to be talking about the blogosphere two weeks in a row. I mean, it was just kind of a it was a UFO video and look like another passing wave for a moment.

00:04:42:04 - 00:05:08:16
Unknown
But no, it's sticking around. And that press conference this morning is pretty big. This is the this is Friday, June 20th. That's the day the press conference. And you and you can catch it on Mason's YouTube channel. It was on television. I would recommend watching it because they had the eyewitnesses there, and that's what he described. When he picked it up, it was around two kilograms and then later it's now measuring it like ten.

00:05:08:18 - 00:05:35:18
Unknown
Yeah, there's no explanation for it. And then there's been multiple videos of very similar objects now filmed in other parts of Colombia and China. Now, since we put one video up on our YouTube and TikTok channel, which I'll link to of a sphere that was just filmed on June 5th, flying over a reservoir in China that looks very similar to the to this sphere.

00:05:35:20 - 00:05:57:02
Unknown
And the eyewitness that found the bogus fair says, I'm very happy to have found this signal. I mean, this was the translation from Spanish, but I'm very happy to I think it's message. I'm very. And that because the message came to me, I was able to bring it to people who were not the government.

00:05:57:04 - 00:06:38:18
Unknown
And that is the big difference here. So this one has the potential to be that major discovery that makes UFOs that much more real.

00:06:38:20 - 00:07:11:10
Unknown
Right. And they made a point to say that it is going to several independent labs for verification. So we're going to get to hear from more than one country, more than one department, more than one set of scientists and people are going to have a chance to debunk it. I want to see the Nazca mummies go through this same process, and everyone should remember that as both of these things go through this process, it only takes one thing, one smoking gun to debunk these things.

00:07:11:12 - 00:07:42:21
Unknown
And we'd be right there with you. We'd be saying, yeah, they're disproven. Let's moving on. But there's no clear endpoint as to when they get proven. That could go on for years and years and years and people saying it's still fake, like there's no real endpoint to when these things get proven. So I am of the very strong opinion that there is other material already in the public, like the Kingman crash, and that material was analyzed and even went to an American university.

00:07:42:21 - 00:08:09:23
Unknown
It came back anomalous. And then eventually it just dies out, like after ten years of people talking about it, it just dies out. So I think what they're doing with this blogosphere and trying to get a reproducible, anomalous effect could really move the needle.

00:08:10:00 - 00:08:40:05
Unknown
Well, and we know that for sure. And I think we give a lot of weight to these black programs as to what they can or cannot do. And it's interesting in the UFO field that I have heard two completely different stories as to what the government has been able to reproduce from the rumor mill, that is, and I have heard both, that they have been able to reproduce, craft and fly around the world globally, like at a moment's notice and undetectable.

00:08:40:10 - 00:08:52:16
Unknown
And then I have heard they haven't been able to reverse engineer jack squat.

00:08:52:18 - 00:09:20:23
Unknown
Which is interesting, right? Because not in this case. In this case, we're seeing this completely independent of America. And America gets to go down there and be an observer and a participant. But we don't get to lead. And we should.

00:09:21:00 - 00:09:52:14
Unknown
The heart of the UFO. Cover up. Let's bring it here. And let's ask them if it's true or not. It has to be the people that are doing the cover up that tell me it's real. That's why they keep interviewing Sean Kirkpatrick. It has to be him. That tells me it's real. And like this drives me bananas because that they always pretend like one person who has motive to lie is equivalent to 20 people, including eyewitnesses, telling you that it was real.

00:09:52:16 - 00:11:17:20
Unknown
And they're like, oh, it's a 5050. There's one guy who's got every reason to lie, says that it's a lie. And all these other people who have no reason to lie and aren't getting paid in any way are all lying. It's a 5050. That's how the media is playing it right?

00:11:17:22 - 00:11:44:05
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. You know that. And that's interesting, because we just did an analysis that we didn't put on the website and text, and I'll explain why, but we actually put this out and video on YouTube and TikTok. So definitely follow our TikTok. We're putting out some exclusive stuff there because we're not censored there. It's like the only place we're not getting censored and we do get censored.

00:11:44:05 - 00:12:02:14
Unknown
There are some, but it's not as bad as anywhere else. And we're not saying anything crazy like, you guys know us, like just scientific stuff. We're talking about the drones and it's just us talking about the drones and we get censored. But on TikTok it's not as bad. So anyway, please follow us there. And we're putting out some exclusive stuff there.

00:12:02:14 - 00:12:14:22
Unknown
And one of the things that we put out there was a recent analysis that we did that compared all of those drone sightings.

00:12:15:00 - 00:12:41:21
Unknown
And is just a reminder, we built a map of those drone sightings based off of credible news reports, and then we put them together into an interactive map you can view on our website. Recently, we noticed that our map looks the same as the map of critical nuclear power plants in the United States, which is also around military plants and population centers.

00:12:41:21 - 00:13:12:17
Unknown
But ours maps almost perfectly right to these sensitive energy industry infrastructure. So we put that overlay together and we did that there. So so we're going what's with the orbs? What are they doing? The message that they have made clear to me to contact these two other experiencers. Right now you can hear Whitley streamer talk about it. You can hear Lucinda, you heard Bruce talk about it like they're making this very, very clear.

00:13:12:19 - 00:13:38:06
Unknown
Two things. Number one, your temperature is too hot. The temperature right now on planet Earth is too friggin hot. They mean us. They mean humans. And they're probably talking a lot about the United States, because that's where the drone sightings appear the most. And they're like, we're reflective or reflective of you. Like, if you the last time this happened was in the 60s, right.

00:13:38:06 - 00:14:03:00
Unknown
And then you had the Cold War and all of that were reflective of the temperature in society right now. So that's one reason we're showing up. Why are we showing up around nuclear power plants? Because those are liminal spaces. Those are threshold spaces. And you're facing an inflection point where those places will be critical. That's a warning. It's a red light.

00:14:03:02 - 00:14:34:03
Unknown
It's telling you we need to cool off and knock it off with the nukes. They could not be more clear about that.

00:14:34:05 - 00:15:05:03
Unknown
Okay, well, Greer said that they were sent to stop him and his team from doing their research. So who? Who's who's who's what? No. I mean, why would the government send up misshapen drones if they were trying to fake something of an alien invasion? Why? Why would they send up misshapen airplanes? That's that's UAP behavior. So I don't think he's correct there.

00:15:05:03 - 00:15:27:20
Unknown
And that's not what I have heard. And that's not what other contact you have heard. And who knows. Like, it all depends on any time you're getting a message from a contact or an experience, or you have to consider three things you have to consider. Number one, do I believe that obviously that's first and foremost, are they credible in their relations or they creditable in their experiences?

00:15:27:20 - 00:15:59:11
Unknown
Are they sensational or are they fantastic? All of those things. We've talked a lot about how we go about validating contacts, and it's gotten a lot easier over the years. I can usually smell behest a mile away now. So with Chris Bledsoe, I definitely believe. Then there's the question of do you believe the entity behind him? And then there's the question of do you believe his interpretation of what the entity told him?

00:15:59:13 - 00:16:19:02
Unknown
So I would call back to like our episodes with Doctor Bruce when Doctor Bruce was talking about how Ansar is kind of representing himself as an ancient alien. And I said, do you think he really was an ancient alien, or do you think that that was like a symbol or a way, a metaphor to help you understand the phenomenon better?

00:16:19:04 - 00:17:06:18
Unknown
And he seemed to think it was the latter. And that is what I've always thought with these beings. And I will get into some more of what they told me. But I think I needed to set that up first, because I don't know if that was just for me to help me to understand the phenomenon better.

00:17:06:20 - 00:17:58:07
Unknown
Yeah. We mentioned before how he has some pretty devout religious beliefs, but they were Christian beliefs and his background and some of the apparitions that he's been encountering would resemble more like Egyptian and some other things. So he's been tying that together in different appearances. I think in some way.

00:17:58:09 - 00:18:24:19
Unknown
Yeah. He keeps saying that the big appearances for him happen around Easter, and that this coming Easter is is going to be the big one. And what he said on the Sean Ryan's podcast was that it was going to be Jesus coming back. But there was also all this other stuff mixed in to.

00:18:24:21 - 00:18:48:19
Unknown
Yeah. So it's significant to his Christian beliefs as well. And it gets to be religious. You know, even his book conversations with God I gotta tell you, these beings have told me and other people I can show you other experiences where they say they're like, we're not gods.

00:18:48:21 - 00:19:16:05
Unknown
We're from outside of space and time. They have all the powers of gods. But they're not gods, right? Gods are capricious. They have personalities. They have form. They have a familiar form. These things are like we don't have a form. We don't live in space and time like you can't compare. You have no reference for us. So every time this is what they tell me anyway, you know, and again, you have to use your own discernment.

00:19:16:05 - 00:19:41:03
Unknown
The rules do not change for me. Charles Fort famously said, I don't believe anything I ever wrote, and I love that. Like we all still have to discern whether or not they're telling the truth. What they were relaying to me was in response to my question of what are you already crypto terrestrial, interdimensional, extraterrestrial essence? You do not have a word that encompasses what we are because we are from outside of space and time.

00:19:41:05 - 00:20:02:12
Unknown
And then I tried a couple other ways to do that, and they went where from outside of space and time, you have no reference. So they have to speak in metaphor. They have to speak in a form of immature writing in order for us to understand it. And from what they tell me, two things happen every time they show up.

00:20:02:14 - 00:20:13:15
Unknown
Number one, they cause chaos and disruption. Definitely could see that. Look at the different number two, they start a religion.

00:20:13:17 - 00:20:22:13
Unknown
They said every time we show up, we start another religion.

00:20:22:15 - 00:20:43:04
Unknown
I think their opinion is that we need to be able to understand that symbolism and myth and folklore even has truth, but it's symbol. We take everything so literally and then we go, it has to be literal and it has to be binary. And we're dealing with beings from outside of space and time. They don't think that way.

00:20:43:05 - 00:21:24:21
Unknown
They're constantly cautioning me about thinking of things in terms of good and evil. And I have to remind myself that all of us have different standards of good and evil, even things that I think are the most basic of good. Like the Golden Rule, there are people who don't really believe in that.

00:21:24:23 - 00:21:49:03
Unknown
For sure. I mean, there's even been negative cases. The being that followed Stratton Homer, the the dog man incident that follows James Stratton home from Skinwalker Ranch was pretty well reported on. And I don't believe that he would lie about that and put his whole family into that position where he's making them all out sound crazy, you know, all for the CIA and the deep state.

00:21:49:03 - 00:22:16:02
Unknown
I just I can't really believe that a father would do that to his family and sound like he's a billionaire or something. I. Yeah. So I do tend to believe his dog man story. And so in that case, there was four analysts that went out to Skinwalker Ranch. They encountered a diamond shaped object, and they said it was resembling something like a portal.

00:22:16:04 - 00:22:59:02
Unknown
It was like a black mass, and they felt a negative energy coming from it. Then they said they went back, reported it, and then then when they went back, all of the analysts, not just Stratton, ended up having weird high strangeness, like sort of malevolent and ominous experiences. The phenomenon was clearly telling them to stay away. In Stratton's case, he had a bunch of blue orbs that hurt one of his sons and left marks on it that were studied, and then the wife's home one day, and looks out the back and she sees a seven foot tall dog man, which is werewolf, you know, seven foot tall cryptid style creature which shows up a lot

00:22:59:02 - 00:23:22:07
Unknown
in Native American folklore. He was in Skinwalker Ranch. That's interesting. And see, when I say that's interesting, people are like, oh, you mean it's a skinwalker? And no, I mean, the phenomenon is emulating the folklore of the region where it emanated from. That's interesting. The wife looks out the back and she sees this thing, and she said it gave her an ominous glare.

00:23:22:12 - 00:23:46:15
Unknown
She got a bad feeling off of it. And, you know, the people at the time, including myself, were like, ask her if she saw anything move like the grass, the the like. Was it actually physically affecting the space around it? And they did ask her and she said yes. And then the kids see it, and then the kids go to school and other kids at their school start having the same type of experience.

00:23:46:15 - 00:24:16:20
Unknown
So it's spread like a virus. And it also appeared to have a reducing effect, almost like a virus, like closer to the source. They were getting that high strangeness and the weirdness and almost malevolence and whatever. And then the further and further it, it got away, the less pronounced the effects were. So this kind of ties into what the entities have been indicating and what other people in the research field are indicating that this involves a form of quantum entanglement.

00:24:17:02 - 00:24:43:09
Unknown
They don't seem to be afraid of using that word of entanglement, and apparently that moment is dangerous to them, to that sort of integration. And this is also what happens during abductions. And it creates trauma events in abductees. But it's it's all part of an integration. And that integration is happening. I would guess on a quantum level that's those are the terms that they're using with me.

00:24:43:09 - 00:24:54:17
Unknown
But I, I don't don't dive all in on that.

00:24:54:19 - 00:25:33:05
Unknown
Yeah. The evidence is compiling. But this bogus fear is something completely new like this could actually lead to a big step towards disclosure, because I think the only true disclosure could come from catastrophic disclosure, which would be if the phenomenon showed up in a very profound, real way. And totally.

00:25:33:07 - 00:25:53:08
Unknown
Right. You've been lying to me. You murdered people in order to keep the lie. You've been using my tax dollars to do it. And God only knows what they've been doing with the technology. Now, another thing that the beings have said to me that would echo what they said. The truth is that they can't weaponize this technology. And this makes a lot of sense.

00:25:53:08 - 00:26:14:04
Unknown
I don't have proof of this. It's the message from the sky. But it makes a lot of sense because we've never seen Russia use, for example, UAP technology on the battlefield in Ukraine. We've never heard or seen it in a significant way on the battlefield. So from what Ansgar told Bruce, he said they can't weaponize it. And that sounded interesting to me.

00:26:14:04 - 00:26:38:08
Unknown
But it also, I don't know, like, do I really believe and I don't know Bruce. Bruce knows the answer and I don't. What they told me was that they can't weaponize it because the technology is based on intent that's inside of those UAP. And this backs up what Jake Farber was saying, that they said, you know, like if if you try to weaponize it, it'll destroy the user.

00:26:38:10 - 00:26:58:20
Unknown
It amplifies the user. This is amplification technology. So it reminds me of sort of like the legends of, King Arthur, you know, and and picking up Excalibur and you had to be pure of heart, right. And if you're not pure of intent, you know, because like I said, they're they're always warning me about good and evil. But intent is clear.

00:26:58:22 - 00:27:14:07
Unknown
And when your intent is aligned with theirs, that's when content becomes possible.

00:27:14:09 - 00:27:45:00
Unknown
Yeah. And they have a function. They have they from what they tell me, they have a function that they have like a goal. And their goal is to preserve the system, the pattern that allows us to keep returning into this reality and this reality and this reality would fall apart without certain things happening. And so their goal is to maintain that reality and that supersedes our well-being, our happiness, all of those things.

00:27:45:00 - 00:28:09:03
Unknown
Right? So they would prefer we find nice ways to do it. But if we can't find nice ways to take care of ourselves and each other, then they'll figure something else out. Like, I don't want to get too biblical, but I think Noah's Ark flood, you know, things like that Tower of Babel where they're like, if we need to hit the reset button, we'll hit the reset button and start over with enough people.

00:28:09:05 - 00:28:48:07
Unknown
So when they say lower the temperature and knock it off with the nukes, we should probably lower the temperature and knock it off with the nukes.

00:28:48:09 - 00:29:20:08
Unknown
The UFO field is full of this, and there's a lot of people who come from the era of the 1960s who really are hung up on an extraterrestrial explanation for this phenomenon, and I'm open to that. It's just that they're denying evidence in order to maintain that. And that becomes a problem. And then you have a bunch of people who have religious beliefs and are reinterpreting everything into that worldview and coming up with frameworks for that.

00:29:20:11 - 00:29:46:14
Unknown
And if they can take that symbolically or say, this is how I'm going to interpret the truth, then we can still find some language together. But if you go, no, that didn't happen. The Earth is only 6000 years old, which is like a pure creationist point of view of the world. It becomes very difficult for us to even find a shared language in UFOs, where where we should be able to go.

00:29:46:14 - 00:30:02:10
Unknown
Yes, we're both dealing with something paranormal. Let's try to sort through it.

00:30:02:12 - 00:30:26:21
Unknown
Yeah, certainly tragedy has a way of bringing people together. And so the question we have to look at, if we can understand that this is symbolic, is to say are things like Noah's Ark a cultural memory, cultural memory, which means are people remembering something that really happened and then applying a different set of modern folklore to it? And was that memory?

00:30:26:21 - 00:30:45:04
Unknown
There's something that's in relation to a lot of cultures where it was like, the world got too crazy and God needed to push the reset button. I keep coming back.

00:31:06:04 - 00:31:26:10
Unknown
That's another way myth can have truth for sure. Myth is not fiction. There is truth within myth. I think there is a lot of folklore I would point out. And there definitions of myth can vary, but they all would agree with that, that there's there's truth and myth. So we all wonder that. Right? So this is in a lot of UFO lore.

00:31:26:15 - 00:31:58:05
Unknown
I mean, whether it's extraterrestrials or crypto terrestrials, there's a belief that some of the preexisting civilizations, Graham Hancock's theories, but it does seem to match up and what we would consider a potential hidden history if you were.

00:31:58:07 - 00:32:27:14
Unknown
Well, it's reflected. And here, I think, whether it's intentional or not, it's analogous to technology where it becomes a black mirror. The phenomenon is definitely a black mirror, like it was appearing as airships in 1900. It was appearing as misshapen 740 sevens in 2024. Like. Silver shells in the Roman air. It's reflective and Ferris wheel. They collected a ton of evidence on that.

00:32:27:14 - 00:33:04:14
Unknown
And there's Robert Kirk's work with the fairies, so it appeared as something supernatural that was reflective of their beliefs at the time, but that was in order to communicate with them. I think there's also and maybe you can comment more on this as an anthropologist, because there's a misconception out there that ancient societies did not understand that they were dealing with a symbolic folklore, that that they all thought that this was literal round.

00:33:43:14 - 00:34:34:23
Unknown
100%. And even when we were looking at where did the Nazis find success in World War Two? And it was with channels and mediums and then where they found success, according to our research in technology, was by taking what those channels and mediums were telling them and infusing that into their technology. And it was coming up with things that they couldn't control, but it was coming up with new stuff.

00:34:35:01 - 00:35:18:08
Unknown
Right. We almost have to go into the Christian era to find a time period where people do take it as physically literal and not metaphorical. So when you say ancients were having the same type of contact that Jake Barber is, I think that they were and they understood that it was this type of nonphysical communication that was happening, and it was with another realm that was also nonphysical.

00:35:18:10 - 00:35:34:05
Unknown
Yeah.

00:35:34:07 - 00:36:09:06
Unknown
Even today, back to the Bledsoe story. He was chastised and thrown out of churches and treat mistreated you know. By some people from the religious community. Others not. Yeah. Depends. It's not monolithic either. Christianity is is pretty varied, especially now.

00:36:09:08 - 00:36:50:06
Unknown
Yeah, it was pretty strange. Matthew Brown followed that interview that he had by posting to his Twitter, a message to Elon Musk about getting an asymmetrical advantage in the political fight that he had with the white House and then a high being able to predict the future. And then some notion, you know, you can go look at the whole tweet.

00:36:50:08 - 00:37:09:15
Unknown
Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff he's saying. And now that he's posting and. Okay. And and talking about I, I have to go. That's interesting because I happen to know that the occult and I are volatile sometimes together, depending on what you're doing. Right. So if that's what he's referring to and then he's saying that the white House has something like that that can predict the future.

00:37:09:21 - 00:37:31:03
Unknown
I mean, that's interesting, but then you're tweeting it at Elon Musk. So that makes you sound a little crazy. Like it's talking about tweeting computers, prophecy future and you're doing it to celebrities. Not a good look.

00:37:31:05 - 00:38:19:13
Unknown
Yeah. Or stick to sports. Yeah. I hope he comes around and explains that in a little bit more detail and decides to be a little less cryptic. I understand him keeping some things back, and also some of these tricks people just wouldn't really understand. And it seems like that's what he's hinting towards. So I kind of hope to hear more from him.

00:38:19:15 - 00:38:37:11
Unknown
Yeah. I enjoyed just taking this little respite. And talking about UFO field today. I think we're going to get into abductions next time, and we haven't really done that in earnest yet, so. It's necessary. It's, it is part of the phenomenon. And I have some more to say.

00:38:37:11 - 00:39:04:02
Unknown
It's, you know, I have completely different things to say about abduction today than I would have even a year ago. And that seems like that that keeps happening. So, Yeah. Cool.

00:39:04:04 - 00:39:09:00
Unknown
That's right. Take care of your.